Ken Woods and John Farley

(Sam) Thanks for joining us this morning on this episode of That’s My Farm. I’m your guest host Sam Capoun and I’ll be stepping in for Jim Shroyer. This morning we have a story of two Kansas cattle ranchers who have abused their body doing what they love, cattle ranching. So Ken Woods and John Farley took something they saw as a need and turned it into a business.

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(Sam) Thanks for joining us this morning on this episode of That’s My Farm. I’m your guest host Sam Capoun. So now let’s hear from John Farley about his experience. (John) Well here at Farley Ranch in Manhattan, Kansas, this is our small cow operation. We like to run all phases of cattle. This is our cows that we run here. I like to keep ’em around…keep my grandson and son-in-laws trained up on running cows. It’s very important to me to do that and I enjoy it. We also graze yearlings all through the Flint Hills. And we’ve been really blessed to have some nice rain again this year and filling up the ponds and springs. It’s really nice right now. We’re also involved in the cattle feeding operations in central Kansas and in Nebraska. So, I enjoy all phases of the cattle business. And that’s my life. I’ve been in the cattle business all my adult life. And so with the cattle business comes some injuries. And I’ve had plenty of them. Most of them are either caused by a horse, a cow or a piece of equipment. And so my last one was breaking a knee jumping out of a skid steer and I’ve had several knee surgeries from various cattle accidents before. And so I was gimping around pretty bad. And I’ve got an eight-year-old grandson that I like to keep up with and a two-year-old granddaughter and I didn’t want to have to just watch ’em. And so I decided to take care of something. I went to California. There was no outlet that I knew of. I went to California and had stem cells put in my knees. And it was amazing. After two or three months I was really feeling the effects, positive effects. A lot less pain, a lot more mobility and my partners and I…friends of mine also went with me and we decided to try to bring that treatment back to Manhattan, Kansas, right here in the midwest. And thought there was a big need for it. A lot of hard working people in this country in the same situation. And right now we’re getting…a big percentage of our patients are farmers and ranchers and hard working people. They just want to extend their working life, extend their playing life and stay more mobile. So, we’re really happy with what we got out of that so far. (Sam) John Farley was able to get back to work cattle ranching after receiving stem cell therapy. Stay tuned and we’re gonna see what his partner Ken Woods has to say after this.

(Sam) Welcome back to That’s My Farm. John Farley and Ken Woods, both founders of the Kansas Regenerative Center, both had stem cell therapy. Now let’s hear about Ken’s experience. (Ken) Well, growing up around a farm and ranch, I started my own cow herd about 15 years ago. I’ve also been in the ag lending field for about 18 years. We’ve got customers all over the state. I started the stem cell therapy thing after having five sports injuries. Had five knee surgeries and decided I needed another alternative to help with my healing process. So, we went to California. The procedure worked so well for us that as we came back and we saw our friends and family and customers in our day-to-day operations, we thought we should bring something like this back to Kansas. And many of my customers as they age are trying to find ways to continue their operation. And they can’t stop, they can’t take six months off. They have to operate on a day-to-day basis and if they’re gonna continue to feed their cattle, if they’re gonna continue to farm like they want to do, then they have to make some type of change and stem cell therapy seemed to be a great opportunity for that. (Sam) Stay tuned. After the commercial we’re gonna hear from two patients of the Kansas Regenerative Center. David Cross and Gary Seibert.

(Sam) David Cross and Gary Seibert are two patients of the Kansas Regenerative Center. Now we’re gonna hear about their positive experiences. (David) I’m a patient of Kansas Regenerative Medicine in Manhattan. I had stem cell therapy in my hips and my left knee. And it all started last summer. My wife and I both are patients. We went down there the same day in November. We started about eight o’clock in the morning and both of us were done by one o’clock in the afternoon and drove home that night. Since then my hips are feeling a lot better. I can work now most of the day if I want to. And before if I worked in the morning I was done in the afternoon. Or if I worked in the afternoon, I was sure enough done for the rest of the day. So, it’s been a blessing for my wife and me. She’s getting along good too and I’d recommend it to anybody. (Gary) We started farming in 1970. My wife and I came back after I got out of the Navy and we put up alfalfa and fed cattle and we’d feed cows out the back of the pickup. And our son, when he was two years old, was driving the pickup and he’d guide the pickup while I’d throw flakes out. And so over the years…it was harder work then than it is now, a lot more physical work and the wear and tear on my knees and my body. And so as time went on and now here I’m 70 years old I started having knee pain here four or five years ago. A doctor friend of mine, a veterinarian, told me about the stem cell thing. So I was looking for a stem cell clinic and April 2nd a year ago, I went in and they injected my knees and my heel. And in about two months my heel was a lot better and then at the end of three months and going on four why my knee started making significant improvement. And it sure’s been a blessing because before I had the stem cells I’d be driving a tractor, and if I sat in a tractor for two or three hours when I got out I’d have to stop and get the kinks out of my knee and shake it and today that’s not a problem. It’s…oh if I abuse it, it still hurts a little bit or if the weather changes I feel it, but it’s significantly better. (Sam) David Cross and Gary Seibert are two great cattle ranchers from Kansas. And they’re able to continue on in their operation by receiving stem cell therapy. Stay tuned, next we’re going to hear from Dr. Corey Orava about his research with stem cell therapy.

(Sam) Welcome back to That’s My Farm. Now we’re gonna hear from veterinarian Dr. Corey Orava about his experience and research in stem cell therapy. (Corey) My name is Dr. Corey Orava. I’m a trained veterinarian. I was in practice with horses for almost ten years. And about a decade ago, I had the opportunity to start working with stem cells. I looked into the research and realized that stem cells are going to change medicine. In the veterinary field we were lucky there was much fewer regulations. We were able to treat cats, dogs and horses. And we amassed a huge amount of data. What we realized is stem cells are working in many, many ways. They don’t just turn into things. That’s what people historically thought of stem cells, they could just turn into a tissue. We now know that’s the tip of the iceberg. What these cells are doing is acting like a conductor. They’re standing in front of an orchestra and coordinating healing. They’re taking cells from different parts of the body and telling them how to heal. One way they can do it is controlling inflammation. Everybody knows what inflammation is and we know too much inflammation is not a good thing. Stem cells can reduce inflammation. But they can actually do more than just reduce inflammation. They can actually change the immune system. There’s part of the immune system called a white blood cell. Some white blood cells are pro-inflammatory. What that means is they want to make more inflammation. They’re kind of the bad guys. When they get out of control you end up with too much inflammation and you usually end up with pain and then stuff falling down, hurting, not getting better. Stem cells can actually take those pro-inflammatory white cells and turn them, make them anti-inflammatory. So, it’s kind of like taking somebody…let me see who’s a bad guy and making them a good guy. It’s as simple as that. They do have the ability to turn into tissue as well. But what we’ve learned recently is not only do stem cells have the ability to turn into specific tissue, say cartilage, they can actually tell other cells to turn into tissue. So, it’s much more complicated than we first thought. I believe in this technology so much that I actually had my wife treated with it. She went to the Kansas Regenerative Medicine Center. She had a nerve injury. So on the inside of her ankle, everybody knows there’s that bulge there. That’s a bone part of the tibia, the medial malleolus. Underneath it she had a nerve that she had an injured from running. She had surgery. After surgery she had some scar tissue. It made it even worse than it was originally. She had a second surgery where they removed the scar tissue and they put a little sheath to kind of protect it from any new scar tissue. It was better, but she was still in chronic pain. She had to give up running. She couldn’t downhill ski anymore because the pressure of the ski boot was too much on her ankle. Even sleeping in bed at night, she would take her foot and put it on top of the covers because the pressure of the covers on her nerve was too much for her. She was on Tramadol and Gabapentin, which are two potent anti-pain meds, for the last five years. After getting treated at the Kansas Regenerative Medicine Center, she is off all of her meds. She is not normal; she is not pain-free, but she is running again, she’s skiing again and she’s off all her meds. It still hurts now and then, but it’s usually nothing more that Tylenol or ibuprofen can’t help, as well as an ice pack. So, I’m not just explaining things from the science point of view, we actually have personal hands-on experience and believe in the technology and just can’t profess it enough. (Sam) Dr. Corey Orava is certainly knowledgeable about the science of stem cell therapy. Stay tuned. Next we’re gonna hear from Dr. Frank Lyons about the procedure in humans.

(Sam) Welcome back, the Kansas Regenerative Center currently has two doctors, Dr. Frank Lyons and Dr. Andrew Pope. We’re now going to hear from Dr. Lyons about the description of the procedure. (Frank) I have been very happy to be involved. We have had some very good results. Primarily we’ve been focusing on arthritic joints. Farmers and ranchers are… they’re hard on their joints and there are a lot of people that come to us with pain and limitation in motion, and we’ve been able to help them. The stem cells they go to areas where cells…they’re attracted to areas where cells are damaged or inflamed. And they lead the process of regeneration and repair. In the joints they create a fibrous type cartilage that covers the joint, allows more free movement and movement without pain. We’ve done shoulders, knees, ankles, hips, fingers. In the deeper joints such as the hips, we use ultrasound to guide the needle placement so we get the injection done properly. We also give intravenous administration for auto immune diseases. Good results for people with stroke, improved healing. Our newest portion of this is working with Dr. Steve Peloquin an MD, anesthesiologist, pain clinic physician here for treatment of back pain. And we’ve had some very good, early results. We’re affiliated with a group in California that started this process using fat-derived stem cells. They started about four years ago. And they have had longer experience with spine problems and have had some very good results. Our early results look very good. We found that farmers and ranchers like this process. It takes about a half a day. And they can leave that same day, drive home, or have someone drive them home and get back to work. We like them to back off their most strenuous activity a little bit but it’s a half a day procedure. We numb the lower back with Lidocaine. It’s a medication the dentist uses. And then we use a mini liposuction technique to obtain 50 cc’s of fat from the subcutaneous region. The Lidocaine makes it pain free. The patient is not put to sleep. After we do that, which takes about 30 minutes perhaps, we centrifuge the syringe with the fat to separate the fat from any blood or Lidocaine that we’ve drawn in there. We then discard the liquid, keeping the fat. That’s where the stem cells are, which are then injected. (Ken) I think it’s great to have a procedure that you can come in, have the procedure and then go right back to work. As a farmer and rancher we don’t have time to call in sick. This is a great opportunity to become healthy again, without having to be laid up for six months. You can’t ride your horse, you can’t get on the tractor because you’re still injured. It’s a great opportunity to get right back to work. (John) We’ve kind of come full circle from a need to have a stem cells from injuries that Ken and I have received from working in the pasture here, working cattle, working horses, all those injuries we had all our life. Went to California. Our vision was to bring it back here to Manhattan, Kansas. (Ken) The best part of the venture that we brought back to the Kansas region is all the farmers and ranchers that we’ve helped in the midwest and to see the success stories and see other people experience the lack of pain, all of the extra mobility and being able to live a normal life. (Sam) Thanks for watching this morning on this episode of That’s My Farm on AGam in Kansas. Be sure to check our our archives to look for our episodes. And also be sure to check us out every Friday morning. Thanks for watching.

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